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PippinTook · Jun 05, 2005, 07:12 PM // 19:12

Would this build work?

R/E

13 Expertise (Hunters Mask & +2 Rune)
11 Marksmanship (+1 Rune)
10 Air Magic
6 Wilderness Survival (+1 Rune)

Barrage
Troll Ungent OR Healing Springs
Distracting Shot
Apply Poison
Pin Down
Savage Shot
Enervating Charge OR Gale
Conjure Lightning

demo182 · Jun 08, 2005, 03:28 AM // 03:28

Hi I'm looking for someone to give me a good SetUp for Ranger/Mesmer Thank You!!!!(waiting for u Weezer Blue

). Pls dont flame me that there's one at the beginning cuz i asked weezer n he said that one is out of date (dont use it).

Lo0sE · Jun 09, 2005, 01:37 AM // 01:37

just to clarify from the beginning-no i have not read any other page in ranger basics thread b/c i am lazy

i have found the best build for pvp to be a r/mo and be pure interrupter ranger and ignore monk ones except vengeance(rez). This is the only way to be really effective(and get a group other than guild) in HoH with all the spike groups running around these days

To pippintook-I find using major runes(+2 to skills) is a waste, you should use superiors. You get +2 for -50, only 1 more skill point for -50hp, while u could use a superior you get 2 more skill points for only another -75hp.So another skill point for -25hp, and when skill is at 11 or 12 dumping another point into it is costly. Also is that build for pvp or pve?

YCantUDie-eternal bows have no special qualities over other bows other than the uber look

Lo0sE · Jun 09, 2005, 01:45 AM // 01:45

just looking for comments on my build, u can go all out i dont care

expertise 11(+1 rune)
markmenship 12(+1rune and hat)
wilderness survival 14(+3 rune)

pvp bar:
poisen arrow
distracting shot
savage shot
frozen soil(only use if group oks it, or when monks down on other team and most of my team is alive+monks)
choking gas
troll unguent
lightning reflexes
vengeance(until the fix glitch)

pve bar:
poisen arrow
penetrating attack
distracting shot
throw dirt or hunters attack
ignite arrows
troll unguent
dust trap or barbed trap
vengeance

Traps · Jun 10, 2005, 04:18 AM // 04:18

looking for help on my R/Mo build

right now my 19 R/Mo is not the best thing ive ever playen with so far.
right now i currently have the full druid set and im looking for a better bow.

I lost hope in my ranger. there not the best things in pvp(arena) and im looking for some help considering that im getting owed by warriors,Elemtalists, and basicly every other class.

if anyone has some spare builds that they have dealing with R/Mo's Please Pm me. I really want to go back to my ranger considering hes such a high level.(very close to 20)

even if u have a pure ranger PvP build id be more than happy to try it out.

Lo0sE · Jun 10, 2005, 05:24 AM // 05:24

one above works great, just u have to be fast and constantly switch targets and make sure to interrupt and distract monks on heals such as healing breeze and ele's on lightning orb

u also have to spread the poisen with poisen arrow, get that -4 hp degen on all enemies

also take out vengeance because they fixed glitch and put up watever rez u want

Traps · Jun 11, 2005, 06:07 AM // 06:07

heres another question. whats the best type of pvp ranger build considering the secondary skill..IE mesmer warrior monk or elementalist? the best type of ranger to invest in Ie wilderness survival, beastmastery etc etc..

ive seen some crazy builds arounds.

--Im also having trouble dealing damage.

Lo0sE · Jun 11, 2005, 06:31 PM // 18:31

rangers were nerfed in beta b/c they did to much damage and the admins wanted to make the ranger class a support class

the best secondary would be mesmer or monk, mesmer for the energy taps, so the ranger can have more other than debilating shot, see the the thread posted about r/me in campfire, has a detailed account on this choice. monk for rez and heals, but im a monk secondary and i only use it for rez, nothing else, no points into any monk skills

also i edited my skill bar for to:
poisen arrow
distracting shot
hunters shot(bleed + poisen=-7hp degen)
frozen soil
choking gas
troll unguent
lightning reflexes or whirling defense
light of dwayna or rebirth

triorph · Jun 13, 2005, 10:52 AM // 10:52

Here is my monk, level 20 R/Me with:

13 marksmanship (major rune + hunter's mask)
9 wilderness survivival (minor rune)
10 expertise (minor rune)

(this is for pve)

Hunter's shot (usually what i replace with SoC)
Distracting shot
Penetrating shot
Melandru's arrows (or apply poison, depends on what other people in group are using and whether i'm using SoC or not)
Troll Unguent
Lightning Reflexes
Whirling Defense
Res signet

heh, that makes my secondary mesmer pretty much obsolete for the time being, perhaps that will change once i've done those +30 attribute points quests. Anyway just looking for some general feedback. I've had quite a few nice compliments about saving the group or being a good tank with this strat.

Traps · Jun 14, 2005, 02:52 PM // 14:52

loose ive been using ur build and i have to tip my hat to you.
im going to move someskills around
pvp
-poison arrow
-distracting shot
-Savage shot
-Frozen ground.(anti monk and no monkgroups. ask group before us every time)
-troll urgent
-lightning reflexes
-rebirth or light of dawyna(too much mana)

PvE
-poison arrow
-penetrating shot
-distracting shot
-throw dirt
-ignite arrows
-troll urgent
-barbed or dust trap(dust trap is 25 mana, less damage and a lower effect time)
-rebirth or light.

this is what u currently have now(or before) but im still testing it and its been great so far. im looking for more of a shot then another type of wilderness skill.

burianek · Jun 14, 2005, 04:30 PM // 16:30

You guys really need to consider Tiger's fury.
Even with a very low beastmastery (either 3 or 4, I can't remember), you can get the duration up to 7 sec, and with a 10 sec recharge, that means you can have it on most of the time. There's simply no subsitute for almost continual 33% faster attacks.
I can't think of a reason not to have it unless you're planning a pure distraction / conditioner p.i.t.a. build that is not a dmg dealer (except dot) whatsoever.
Cheers.

Kurow · Jun 14, 2005, 11:20 PM // 23:20

I was planning on making some sort of Bleeding/Poison build on my R/W, but it doesnt look like anyone uses both swords and bows... is this a bad idea then?

Kurow · Jun 14, 2005, 11:59 PM // 23:59

Recently ive decided to dtich the sword, as i can find abilities with bleeding independent of warrior abilites. I was thinking of using this skill set:
Poison Arrow
Melandru's Arrows
Disciplined Stance
Hunter's Shot
Concussion Shot
Healing Spring
Troll Unguent
Revive Signet

Any revisions?

Traps · Jun 15, 2005, 02:56 AM // 02:56

u cant have more than more elite skill in ur action bar.
a ranger warrior should try sever artry and apply poison.
thats 7bars of Health dejen

id say drop the poison arrows or Melandru's Arrows and start from there.

Casonetto · Jun 15, 2005, 03:27 AM // 03:27

Just curious, what do you guys recommend as a superior ranger build for playing with a buddy and maybe arena stuff? I would like to specialize in bow and traps. Thanks for any help.

Kurow · Jun 15, 2005, 03:32 AM // 03:32

Wait... so i should go for bow and sword? Cuz you can use apply poison on swords... can you?

Seth Oriath · Jun 15, 2005, 03:40 AM // 03:40

Yes, Apply Poison works on any weapon you wield. Other preparations don't, IIRC. I know Kindle Arrows doesn't.

If you want to specialize in bows and traps, Casonetto, you'll need a high Marksmanship and a high Wilderness Survival. Sometimes I think that Wilderness Survival is one of the most overlooked attributes in the game. But I digress.

Casonetto · Jun 15, 2005, 03:44 AM // 03:44

Cool, I will give it a whirl. What would be a fine second profession for that?

Kurow · Jun 15, 2005, 04:01 AM // 04:01

Ok, decided to go with just a sword, cuz melee rangers are the hotness. So now ive got:

Sever Artery
Gash
Savage Slash*
Apply Poison
Deadly Reposte*//Shields Up!*
Gladiator's Defense
Troll Unguent
Resurrect Signet

*-Not sure, need suggestions

And with gladiator's defense, has anyone found it yet? Cuz theres no picture on the skills page.

Seth Oriath · Jun 15, 2005, 04:51 AM // 04:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Casonetto

Cool, I will give it a whirl. What would be a fine second profession for that?

Well, I use Mesmer, but that's because I'm a degen kinda guy

The only one I really wouldn't recommend would be warrior, because most warrior skills pertain to the weapon used (and since you're wanting to use bows, that would negate most of the skills). The ones that don't are kinda small in number when you consider you only have the tactics attribute left to work from. Most of those are meant for defense, too. So, if you were going for defense, warrior might work out.

You could go a number of different ways with that. Like I was saying in another thread, it's your playstyle that you need to consider, not what you read everybody else recommend. See above: I even convinced myself that there is use for a warrior after all, depending if you wanted to play a defensive playstyle. I used to be a warrior secondary, but never used it. I didn't play that way.

That's the great thing about this game; you can pretty much do anything with your characters. It's all up to how you want to play it.

And Kurow, I believe Gladiator's Defense is an elite skill that you get from Dragon's Lair.